Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon V1
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WALDNER ULTRA SENSO CARBON
Blade technology "made in Sweden"
Jan-Ove Waldner has been to table tennis what Mozart is to music. Waldner was a fan of the standard blade DONIC Waldner Senso Carbon for many years. This legendary blade has, however, been further developed and improved, in collaboration with the greatest table tennis player of all time. DONIC has designed a faster version of the Waldner Carbon blade. The Waldner Ultra Carbon is a light Carbon blade with impressive ball control and feel - ideal for an inspirational player. The increase in speed is due to hard Carbon plies which have been placed around a relatively thin middle veneer. The inner and outer veneers with varied hardness give this blade superb touch - typical of Waldner.
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Reviews of Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon V1 (28)
Hey guys, recently I've purchased a new bat since my previous one was about 6 years old. When purchasing a new bat, I had in mind that I wanted it to be slightly more powerful than my previous one.I've been playing with my new bat for about 2 months now, and it is much more powerful than my previous bat. I liked it at first, but I also noticed the amount of focus and effort I had to put to return the balls consistently.
Some information about myself:I would label myself as a medium skilled player, at about 1300 rating. I've been playing for 2-3 years, with 2 trainings per week on average. I am 21 years old. My play style is fairly all-round to the offensive side. I can comfortably serve, shove, spin and block. But I intend to become stronger at offense.
So yesterday, a beginner player at my club purchased a new bat, and I asked if I could try it. His bat was noticeably lighter than my own and I played some rallies. Wow, I was so surprised. Suddenly playing regular forehand in the diagonal seemed like child's play. So much more consistency and control than I have with my own bat! Then we switched to opening and looping. Once again I felt totally in control of the openings and looping style that had been quite difficult before.
I tried another one of my friend's bats also. It was a carbon blade, but much lighter than mine. I am not quite sure about his rubbers, but I felt like I had much more control again than with my own bat! Especially the serves. I could suddenly serve much shorter again, similar to what I could with my older bat. Also the opening and blocking seemed much more precise. I was baffled about the fact that with a random bat that I've never played with before, I can play much more consistently and comfortably than with my own bat that I train with twice a week!
Plies: 7 (5 Wood + 2 Composite)
- 2 * Limba 0.5mm
- 2 * Ayous 1.4mm
- 2 * Carbon 0.25mm
- Ayous 1.4mm
first time i beat a 2100 was with this blade. magical control. speed is on the slow side especially when looping but when hitting directly, it packs some punch. you're less likely to one-shot people with loop kills but counter looping is a breeze as if you were using hurricane
Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon is faster brother Donic Waldner Senso Carbon, faster and less control, better use no max. rubbers, good block, smash, spin...not bad blade :)
Having it for a year i can compare it with the simple senso and the Ovtcharov Senso V-1. Well....buy the simple senso! Ultra is a very hard blade with minimum dwell time. The only rubber i can say fitted well on it is the Bluefire M3. Great advantage of this blade is the weight. It is light and if you must pair it with light and medium weight rubbers as well. I reccomend to put softer bluefires. Blade's head is smaller 155X149-150. Suppose to loop well but it doesn't, its a very low throw blade and you have to be very skilled to loop well or activate the carbon for hard hits. Waldner himself always used the simple senso, he knew better than us!
I bought this blade Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon (WUSC) and the Waldner Senso Carbon (WSC) at the same time and put Tibhar 5Q 2.1mm for FH side and FX-P 2.1mm for BH side on both blades. Both bare blades weight 85g so both paddles weight 178g with rubbers on. On WUSC the third, center and fourth layers have the same thickness. The outer layers are thin. The carbon layer is next to the center layer. On WSC, the center layer is thick with 4 much thinner outer layers like regular 5 layer blades. The carbon is also next to the center layer. I have separate comments for each blade.
I love the woody feeling of WUSC. The whole blade is one sweet spot. It is quite stiff. You can tell where the ball lands on the blade. Smashing from away the table is like firing a cannon. Backhand drive 3 feet from table with quick small movement produces tremendous speed and spin. Counter topspin is amazing. My opponents realize quickly if their long topspin is not fast enough they will get hammered. I can feel the spiny ball dig into the rubber and twist it before the blade shoots it out down the baseline. For underspin return, I apply light fast brush and the ball sinks like a rock after the net. Looping chopped ball allows spin and speed variation. This blade begs for hard hitting. The harder you hit the better the dwell and feeling. You can do touch shots too. However, the middle gear is less reliable. Short game demands very soft hand to control the ball accurately. Flicks requires good timing. This blade requires good enough technique to handle it well and extract all potential out of it.
They are both great blades. I am glad I bought them together which helped me understand more about my natural style. For now I am leaning toward WUSC with softer rubber to get more wood feeling but I am keeping both of them.
If you are an intermediate or even beginner player, this blade can do wonders for you :) It is good for everything you can think of. However, it is of great importance to beware what rubbers you put on. If you put on rubbers with soft or even medium sponge, it will come out slow, because the carbon layer is placed deep within the wood and it is harder to activate it. But to compensate that, this is a great opportunity for short games or away from the table when the carbon activates on harder strokes/punches. So if you manage to put the right rubbers on it, you are going places with it. Durability is great. Very good blade for me and I think it is worth a try for a lot of people. But to be honest I don't think that it is that good for intermidiate and advanced players.
Update: After some time I realized that this blade lack some kick in speed and I have to put very fast and hard rubbers on it to play my offensive style of game effectively so I decided to move on to another blade. Also its quality is not that good in comparison to other blades. In my perspective this blade is not OFF or manufactured OFF+ rate but I think it's actually OFF-. And I've noticed in other Donic products that their rating system is not very accurate and they always make their products seem faster than they actually are (since they use terms like OFF++ which don't really exist). Nevertheless it's still a great blade.
Having read a number of very favourable reviews on this blade, I decided to go ahead and buy one. First of all, lets get one thing quite clear. This IS NOT an OFF+ Blade as clearly marketed by Donic. I have absolutely no idea where Donic have come up with this from and I would say a rating of ALL+ to OFF- would be far closer to the mark. Secondly, it features a rather unusual handle design with it being far slimmer than any other blade I have tried. This takes some getting used to, as does the fact that the handle is also partly hollow. I am really not quite sure as to exactly why this is the case. I'm guessing to make the bat feel more top heavy. I am using the blade with Andro Rasant Grip on the FH and Donic Bluefire JP03 on the BH. After playing with it for some time now, I am slowly getting used to the unusual quirks with this blad!
e but have to say that I am a little disappointed that its description is very different from how the blade actually performs.
Update4: Experimented thoughout the year with many blades and finally falls back on the trust of this blade. I feel in love with it... speed (9.2) or (8.0) as I need it really. Outfashioned winner !
Update3: Its Off blade, fast blade for sure... hahaha :) I am sure this blade has many gears and I keep switching my opinion on its speed. Recently I have started to look for a slower blade but then reverted back on it rather to tame it. I think this is a perfect blade. (My other blades are Xiom Vega Pro (slightly faster), Viscaria (Very fast), DHS PG9 (too fast), Jonyer H ii (Slower).
Its ALL+ ... very good control and versatility. I can always come back to the blade when I am not happy with my performance with faster blades.
I am using the blade for last 3.5 years... infact because of its super speed and good control our main team members opted for this blade.
I have used this blade with Acuda S1, S2, Rakza 7, Rakza 7 soft, Rakza 9, Coppa gold rubbers till now.
Its senso handle really makes it a personal friend and you feel it more. This feeling gives you more control naturally !
The problem however remains with its speed especially when you have fast rubbers on it... so it has something to do with the skill level. Its OFF- and I would recommend it for players only with reasonably developed skill (it must be favorite of attacking top spinners like me).
Particularly the blade is good at looping or high speed top spin both against backspin or top spin... This is good at blocks too, flicks, smashes or counterfeit, or flat shots. Good at the table, mid or large distance from table.
This must be a top level kind of blades... and yet its pricing is moderate comparatively.
Someone struggling to lift the ball from backhand may re-consider buying. Otherwise its a superb thing, a companion for long time!!! Its highly durable, no problems faced in rubber changes either. Very good grip, nice wood.
Versatile and easy to play carbon blade. Stiff enough for blocks and smashes. Flexible enough for topspins. Soft woody feeling thanks to limba outer ply. Huge amount of control and sensations. Overall the WSUC is a great blade at reasonable price.
NB: it tends to be head-heavy so you better chose a lightweight one and/or go for lightwheight rubbers
Yes, this blade is not for beginners. In fact, it is really fast, has a very good control, very good feeling, dwell time, very sensitive, overall - very complete and balanced blade, for a loop-oriented play.
I was searching for a blade that would fit my style - I'm a little bit advanced allround player, have a strong BH loop (can make BH loop-kill, also a banana-flick), strong and stable FH loop with many gears (from slow and very spinny to a fast loop-kill), I do the strong flat hitting both from FH and BH - especially a strong flat punch-block on BH, stable blocking and counter-blocking from BH and FH, also have a delicate touch, variable services, fast legs, pretty developed technique and etc.
So my dream blade was a carbon blade (for larger sweet spot), very sensitive (I like to feel a ball), with good dwell (for looping with many gears), stiff enough (for flat hitting and blocking), with good control (for tactical play), with good speed (for kill shots).
And what do You think? Donic WSUC have all these qualities!
I've paired it with a Tibhar Sinus Sound Max. on BH and Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft 2.0 mm on FH.
Rakza 7 Soft on WSUC has so much spin, that even very advanced players encounter problems when controlling my spinny loops. Also on that blade it has rare "can't miss" feeling.
Sinus Sound on WSUC has an outstanding feeling, linearity on my BH and very good power looping abilities.
One important moment - WSUC is a little bit head-heavy due to its handle design, while using light rubbers, it's not a problem. I thing head heaviness is much better for looping.
Definitely it's a loopers dream! Perfect balance for advanced allround play!
Finally about the speed. I've read some reviewers rate it very fast, some rate it not so fast at all. Well, the secret lies in that blade's perfect balance and versatility. It means that You can make a very sensitive short touch with that blade, even play a defensive style, vary the game gears much - but when You are on straight attack, a fast and technical stroke releases a BEAST sleeping inside. It can be very powerful when using proper technique.
Perfect blade for a modern "power allround" attacker with good technique and fast legs.
nice balance speed=control..
great for close and far away from table.. its good for loopers.. but its not for beginers..
upd.. i put rakza 7 soft 2.0 and its very nice for short game , and u can have strange angles, but in my style it needs speed for backhand hits, for spin is ok.. for forhand i had strange feeling like my blade is to light... with tibhar 1q dont have consistency, and its soft feeling, but with tenergy 05 its like a dream
This is a fine blade for controlled offensive players. I would rate it as an Off- Blade even though Donic describes it as very fast which it isn´t. What I like about this blade is the soft touch which makes it easy to play push balls as well as spinny topspins. My playing style is allround-offensive and combined with softer rubbers this blade supports my style perfectly.
Update: after 8 months of trying to improve my technique, some coaching, trying other blades, looking at coaching clips, borrowing a robot and starting competition...... I like this paddle. I have Jupiter for the forehand and Mercury 2 for the backhand.
I think the vibration is freaky. Everytime I try to block opponent ball, even in practice, it vibrate heavily, so it kills my sense. Pehaps i'm not used to this kind of vibration. This blade is not for me.
verry good control and the feeling on this blade is the best! Not to fast blade I would say off- blade.
Played with this for a couple of months now. I give it 7/10. This sucker is FAST.
Control/feel--I have used high control blades as a rule. This felt really good for a while, but the better my technique got (and I have been working hard to improve lately), the more I found myself saying, "WHOA!" The control isn't bad, but there is a lot to control. Also, it feels quite hard to me. On the plus side, the carbon layers are deep on the plies, so the speed kicks in only on harder shots. But if someone zings one at you, I found it difficult to keep the ball on the boards.
Handle--I have the ST. I'd say medium thickness, oval. I have fairly large hands, and this handle feels pretty good. It's hollowed out (Donic's "V1 technology"). It gives me good feedback, no annoying vibration, and it makes the racket head-heavy.
Head--the Ultra is light, mine weighed in at 83 grams. It's 5.8mm thick, and the size and shape are standard. The sweet spot seems very forgiving to me. I've dressed it with Xiom Vega Pro Max on both sides. The head heaviness bothers me personally. I like a more balanced blade. It makes the blade seem heavier than it is.
Style--I hit a mostly mid distance loop game. I'm 6', 30 years old, slim, and I hit hard, but also carefully and with aim (think Ovtcharov or Maze, but not as good). This blade is suited most to power hitters, mid or long distance. It doesn't quite have the finesse I need.
Power--This it has. I would class this blade more in the OFF+ category, rather than the manufacturer's stated OFF. If you wanna move plastic fast, this is your blade.
In sum, I don't think many people will be able to use this blade well. I would be more inclined to recommend the Senso Carbon, the blade below this one in power, the one Ovtcharov uses. I need a softer feel and more finesse to my shots than this blade can give me.
After experimenting with stiffer and harder blades (Stiga tube carbo, DHS-PG7, Yasaka -d)ynamix) went back to softer, wood feeling carbon blades (Butterfly-balsa carbo 5, Butterfly Maze off, Donic-Waldner SUC). Allways use the same combo of rubbers (Xiom Sigma europe on FH, Globe 888 (MP) with japanise sponge on BH).
Overall testing gave me the final conclusion: DWUSC is unbeatable in all perfomances I need for my control agressive playing!! Whatever I choose during the game I realized. agressive shots on the both sides, passive/active blocking, pushing, serving, looping, driving...everything works perfect from each part of the arena !! Must also say that I cut the head to the shape of Butterfly-Balsa carbo 5, and solved the problem of head heavines. The time for experiments is now over-this is my final choice!!
I'm a recreational player and had this blade for a while. I love to loop/drive, but no matter what rubbers i put on (fast, medium or slow). it just doesn't work for me. My battered old Primorac is a much better blade. My new Galaxy T8 highlights the lack of speed of this Donic
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