Tibhar Evolution MX-P
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Evolution MX-P is the fastest and most dynamic rubber of the EVOLUTION rubber family. Thanks to the perfect adjustment of the pimple geometry, more flexibility is conferred to attacking balls extra energy. MX-P is very well adapted to any player's game, making no concession in terms of speed and spin. The ball/bat contact time of the MX-P is a little bit longer than the reference time, thus conferring much more sensation. Chosen by topspin players willing to feel the necessary pressure of their strokes at the table and at half distance.
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Reviews of Tibhar Evolution MX-P (63)
Put MX-P Max on a new Butterfly Viscaria FL blade and it is a machine. Speed, control, blocking, and everything else is awesome. Matching this rubber with the right blade is very important. The Viscaria blade weighed 85 grams without rubber and with the MX-P Max rubber it weighed a nice 190 grams (perfect weight). The playing characteristics of the MX-P and Viscaria together are a perfect match (IMO). Great combination that deserves 5 stars and a 10.
I have been using MXP for almost 3 years now. First year was with one of the very few blades made my Adidas and unfortunately I could never find its specifications. It was on the heavier side and combined with MXP both bh and fh, produces amazing spin from a step away from the table. I am someone who uses a lot of lower body (more than required) to loop underspin. My stroke and MXP complimented each other and I got the best use out of it. I moved on to TBALC with MXP for the next 6 months which took a lot of getting used to and one immediate thing I noticed with ALC + MXP is that my close to the table counterloop was extremely effective. I couldn't produce as much spin far away from the table as I used to because of the new blade but if you're someone who wants to go up to a semi professional level with a new setup where you reply on spin more than speed, TB ALC + MXP is the best combination to go with. I tried using T05 for a couple months. The difference between MXP and T05 was that I had more control over soft with MXP where I lose my gripping or my bat angle. I could land the ball easily for sudden out of position short strokes with MXP which I could clearly not do with T05 ( my guess is T05 takes A LOT of time to get used to and to get the feel and control). The only downside with MXP is life. with 15 hours a week training, you might get 2 months out of it. Gradually loses its ability to produce effective spin.
MXP max, red on a Drinkhall defensive blade on forehand side, MXS max, black now on backhand.Swapped the FXS for MXP, the MXP is similar to the MXS, maybe has a very slightly softer feel, so the change over didnt really have a huge effect or change to my forehand.
Spin is really good, speed is good, control is good, blocking good, serves are great good speed and spin, easy to vary the amount of pace and spin.
Forehand loop against backspin is great, I found it fairly easy to attack a backspin ball, my technique is improving!!!
The big difference in the new set up is that the MXS is much better than the FXP on my backhand. Direct, zippy, easier to impart spin, faster.
Overall I have found it difficult to identify much of a difference between MXP and MXS, I would be happy to play with either on backhand or forehand sides.
Both of these rubbers are excellent!!
I know a lot of you want a comparison against T05 or D05, I have not used either of these rubbers, I have used T80FX, but on a slightly faster Stiga defensive pro blade, I found the T80FX to be faster, but more linear, more catapult effect, less forgiving for a player of my standard, I like the MXP/MXS much more.
I have also used Stiga Mantra M 2.1mm, on a 30+yr old Butterfly Tamca 5000 blade, this set up was extremely fast!!!!! For me verging on uncontrollable.
In the future I may put the MXP/MXS/T80FX on the Tamca blade just to see how fast these rubbers are compared to the Stiga Mantra
Tibhar Mx-P is the rubber used by all pro and advanced players. Flat hitting, Blocking are its speciality 10/10. Spin , serve and touch game (9/10). Looping 9/10. It has medium catapult after breaking in after a 1 week. After 1 month it is very linear and requires effort in looping and TS. BS is also consistent during this period. After 2 months or 125 hours the speed and spin reduce greatly. Almost comes down to Mark V speed, no spin. with boosters can extend by 1 month. No other rubber which is currently as good as this for blocking and flat hitting with very good looping capability with medium high throw. In comparison to Tenergy 05 spin is marginally less, speed is 1 order high, duralibility is one order less, throw is also one order low. Overall a great tournament rubber.
Ratings for 2.15mm. Similar to tenergy, but cheaper, top sheet has a bit more grip, which is good for services.
This is Tenergy on steroids!!!!
Only difference is that you can hit flat with this rubber while Tenergy will go off the table.
Go with 1.8-2.0 mm thickness.
Higher than that would be hard to control.
Best value for the money.
Good bh rubber,activ block is ok,low throw,more speed and power than t64, les filling,but still ok.
Fastest rubber ive used. Short game is okay, blocks are okay, lifting backspin is easy. Rubber is not hard at all, its only 45+ degree and is much softer than Vega Pro/Omega V Asia. Topspins is crazy fast but can go long with hard strokes.
Rubber is factory tuned so lifetime is not so long.
Suitable for high level play close to the table with short strokes.
One of the best rubber in the market, unfortunately it has durability issues. After 2 - 4 weeks of continues use, you need to replace it. Go for it if budget is not an issue or you have sponsors...
Spin (European Style): 9.1
Weight: 49g in 2.2 (0.239g/cm^2)
Hardness (DHS): 37.5
Fast Loop: 9.3
Slow Loop: 9.1
Counter Loop: 9
Available Sponge Thickness: 1.75/1.95/2.15
Nice rubber, basically an upgraded Genius. Topsheet is much better than that of previous generations. Throw is medium. Same throw as TG2, hence complements it very well on the BH. Good spin, but needs quite a bit of sponge engagement to get to it. Topsheet grab is good but still falls short compared to the likes of T05. For such an fast, offensive rubber this is suprisingly linear on the low end and has good control. There are just two problems, first is that it is sometimes difficult to estimate when catapult kicks in (especially as factory booster dissipates). Second is that you need a very good blocker to actually train with this rubber because intermediate players can't block full strokes with this, or at least not consistently. Other than that, surely one of the best ESN rubbers so far.
It is a great rubber for aggressive players. It is fast and produces great spin. It's a bit harder to control than T05 so keep that in mind. You have to be at least certain skill level to exploit the potential of this rubber. It requires good impact timing and form. Boosted, it's even better! The lifespan of the sponge however is pretty short. After about 2~3 weeks of training, you'll start to feel the sponge loosing its power. The topsheet does last much longer. I'd say 6~8 week lifespan if you use them regularly. If boosted, it'll be good for about 4~6 weeks and also requires reapplication of booster oil after about 2~3 weeks. Regardless it still last longer than Tenergy at only about half the price (when they're on sale)!
very fast and not easy to be controlled ... i tried to play in my FH when i first bought it but used it in my back hand :)
I first used this rubber with max sponge thickness (2.1-2.2) on Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon for my FH. I was quite unsatisfied because the setup was too heavy for me although it produced good amount of spin and speed but not that good in terms of ball feel. Because of this, I decided to try this rubber with 1.9-2.0 sponge thickness on the same blade. I was surprised with this setup because the difference in sponge thickness was way more evident that I expected it to be. With the thinner sponge, it was able to give me a better feel as it allowed me to directly feel the blade better especially during counterhits and touchplays. Its slightly tacky topsheet produced considerable amount of spin on my serves and FH loops, and what even helped is the reduced sponge thickness that made it more controllable and consistent due to reduced rebound. Blocks were also easy with the 1.9-2.0 version of this rubber because there is no unnecessary rebound unlike the max sponge version. The only drawback with using a thinner sponge for MX-P was its reduced speed. However, I would rather lose some amount of speed for my attacks but get way better ball feel for my strokes than use a max sponge MX-P and get a powerful attack but poor ball feel.
Compare to t05. Test on same blade with consistant stroke, multiball and robot pong. Playing style, looping and drive. Speed not so different. Spin t05>mxp. Throw angle t05>mxp. Catapult effect mxp>t05. Hardness mxp>t05. T05 best for looping, mxp best for drive. Mxp is easy to use, easy to reach the catapult effect. So which one is the best rubber depend on your playing style and skill level. Borrow from your friends, test both on the same blade and u will get the answer. They are good rubber with different character. One is cheap and easy to play and the other one is heavy price and more suit to pro player. I have try many rubber and i found only 2 rubber that near character to t05. It was Dhs GA8 & Mxp. After 5 years using t05 i would say there is no t05 alternative. If u love mxp, it was a good news because u can save a lot, half price of t05. So gud luck.
What a gem!!! I ditto all the good things said about this rubber!!! A bit too heavy, but performance is absolutely perfect!
Good speed and control. Spin is slightly less specially when hitting high speed topspins. Very good for FH and for offensive players
The fastest rubber I've ever used by far. It is often described as the fastest on the market right now. It has a very good speen and monster speed, often hard to be controlled. It is said to have a 45-46 degree sponge, but the speed it generates is amazing. The biggest upset for me about this rubber is the fact that is heavy as all hell. The heaviest rubber I ever played with (I play it on a Butterfly Liu Shiwen, which has a bigger size, 158-152) and it's head heavy oriented. It's a great rubber, but it's speed is simply too much for me. Also an important factor is the durability. This rubber is factory boosted and after 3 months it kinda feels like dead.
Good rubber for offensive style. Not forgiving also spin is Not high as stated. Rubber feels hard when playing around 50 degree but does look like when pressing. Found best suit soft or medium hardness blades.
Used it in max thickness,red,FH.played 6 hrs only so far.Best rubber I have used ever.Better than Andro rasant.Shoots the ball,great catapult effect,huge spin that is speedy,ball kicks off the table like a cobra.Amazing control for a fast rubber.Suprisingly chops are awesome and its not very sensitive to incoming spin.....so good for serve receives.My friend used it for >1 yr,so I know its very durable.Cost is not too high.I am using it on Yinhe ZLC venus 4.
Will update if there is new info.
Tibhar MX-P is a great attacking rubber for offensive players. I will just confirm what many have already said: that if you are a Tenergy 05 user your transition to MX-P will be fairly easy. While they don't feel exactly the same their performance is similar using the same technique. MX-P is a tad faster and harder than T05 and the throw angle is lower. In terms of spin, I think they are fairly similar but T05 is still more spinny on brush strokes with MX-P being equal when the sponge is fully engaged. While I still feel T05 is the best pure looping rubber because of it's higher throw angle and increased bounciness I feel MX-P is the better overall attacking rubber. MX-P has better control and consistency than T05 that results in a superior short game including pushes, blocks, flat hits, and serve returns. It has that advantage while still being 95% as good as T05 in the looping department. An excellent rubber and value. It can be played on either FH or BH but I personally use it on the BH as I prefer a slightly higher throw angle for my FH. Recommended.
Great rubber. Very fast but with good control over the table. It has a lower throw than Tenergy 05. Good for playing near the table.
Extreme speed, you can destroy smashing but too heavy, spin is not the strong point of this rubber
Update: using this almost 6 months and its perfect for serves and openings, it gives you enough spin to clear the net and tremendous speed. Easy to counterloop and play away from table even on slow blades.
By far the fastest rubber i have tried speed 9.5 is very acurate and spin 9.4 too. Very good for blocking but since it is fast you dont have much dwell time to put a lot of spin. If speed is your game buy it but your stroke must be precise otherwise the ball will go out of the table. Very good rubber for my playing style (looping far from table but close really good for blocks on the forehand). Definity faster than Andro Rasant Powergrip which im using on backhand but a little less spin. A lot of catapult effect.
Great overall rubber. You can do everything with it, it is fast, spinny and has control, can play close or away from the table, really good.
This is a hard and fast rubber with a grippy topsheet. I am coming from xiom vega europe. This rubber is faster but much less predictable. This is my first day with it and i didn't do well. I will have to try to understand its weird reaction. This rubber is very heavy, more heavy than I expected. I will post more later. Update this is my second day of playing with this rubber. I am playing against a robot and i am learning different angles and stroke force. I still find the rubber is hard to control and is unpredictable. Third day of playing with this rubber, and the rubber is just difficult to understand as the plastic ball bounces of the rubber at weird angles. The old celluloid ball plays better with this rubber. Also, I notice that the rubber has lost a significant amount of spin. I lost my money on this one. I will remove this rubber and go back to xiom vega europe which is very predictable and controllable. At this point I do not even want to take a chance on another tibhar model rubber. UPDATE - After a few days of play, the factory applied booster has worn away, the rubber now plays predictable and natural, no more weirdness. The rubber feels medium soft, it is fast like tenergy 05 but softer and more controllable. But unfortunately, after 1 hour of play all the spin capability of the rubber was lost. Then I cleaned the rubber and the spin came back.
I use this rubber on my backhand and on the Stiga OC blade. I will be comparing it with Tenergy05. First of all, this rubber weighs a lot, without exaggerating. This rubber produces tons of spin against backspin, while little effort is needed. Countertopspin is good, but not over the top amazing. Flat hitting requires some placement because the high throw angle and the tensor ability so you might have to adjust a little. Looping and topspinning is easy, but the bat angle has to be sharp. Serving has good spin. This rubber feels slightly faster, although in the beginning I didn't like the dwell time of the ball on this combination but I adjusted now. It felt "floaty" at first. I highly recommend this for either side, forehand or backhand, whatever you prefer. On forehand you can apply lots of pressure with little effort. While on the backhand you can drive, topspin and finish points with a lot of power. The rubbers hardness alows close as mid-range shots depending on th frame you have to be very powerful
good offensive ruuber, i used it on tmoboll alc on FH, but i think grip runs out very fast
Fast rubber but has a good control. The topsheet is very flexible. This make the rubber doesn't feel really hard even it's rated a hard rubber. I think this is the most balance rubber from Tibhar Evolution series.
Very solid forehand rubber, good close to the table with loops and drives. I haven't tried it on the backhand much so i can't really say how it good it is there but overall a really strong attacking rubber, give it a try if you want. :)
If compairing with Tenergy series, im not yet tested on a same blade though, but for me MXP (mine is black max) closer to T64 or T80
Speed: high (9.4).
Spin: high (9.3).
Control: average (9.2).
Tackiness: slightly tacky (2).
Weight: medium heavy (49g, 0.239g/cm^2).
Sponge hardness: medium hard (51/38).
Top sheet hardness: hard (55/43).
Gears: average (5).
Throw: medium high (6).
Consistency: always identical (9).
Durability: average durability (5).
Top sheet thickness: average (1.7mm).
Surface thickness: average (0.8mm).
Pip length: medium (0.9mm).
Pip width: average (1.7mm).
Pip spacing: dense (0.6mm).
Overall: good (9.5).
Value: expensive (4).
Plays similar to Tenergy 05, but with less spin, close to Tenergy 80. Can be very quick on a fast blade. Sponge is harder than Tenergy.
Often compared to T05.Never big fan (user) of Tenergy rubbers still have two T80 glued on some of my blades.Thibar MX-P ( 46.5 degree) is a good offensive rubber no question.But I find Thibar MX_S and Andro Powergrip suits better for my playing style.Both MX_S and Powergrip got harder sponge 48 and 50 degrees in ESN hardness scale.I need a hard sponge with good feel for blocking.Just my personal opinion and preference.I hope I was helpful.
I am a pen-holder, the racket I used is Butterfly Cypress Max and Butterfly Special, this rubber fit these rackets. A little bit in hardness in the first 4 times of play (2 hours per play) made poor control of receive and dropshot, while it became softer in the later weeks, a good control and bounce reached. The honey period of this rubber is about 30 hours (2 hour play, 15 times) and it gradually lost power. The serve and power is quite good (better then Xiom Vega Pro, Ando Rasant, Nittaku G1, and Andro Rasant Turbo). The spin is easier than Rasant Turbo and other rubbers, while it needs more techniques to control the balls close to the net. It is quite easy to do loop, speed and handle counterloop, The duration of rubber life span is above the average.
I dont think many will believe but it's better than tenergy 05 FX (for Forehand not backhand) I can't beleive its price almost half still ..slightly more spin .more control no need to to close the racket too much as with T05FX ..speed is identical ..power is clearly better in mxp because of the Hardness ..only concern is the catapult effect and the feel ..T05fx has monterous catapult whereas mxp is ok in that department ..and how much will these mentioned characteristics last time will tell ...but I am really in love with this rubber.This will probably be my go to Forehand rubber for few years to come no doubt ..
This is a great attacking rubber! It has insane catapult and great speed. It's the best alternative for Tenergy but much cheaper (38 Euro in my country). Not for beginners because it's sooo fast. But when you learn how to control it - you'll be the happiest person in table tennis history :) Every shot makes you smile. Opening topspin - easy stuff. Powerlooping great. Serve or serve receive using banana flick - superb! I'm really in love with this rubber after trying some Xioms, Yasakas and Nittakus (Tenergy is great but pricey). If you're seeking for a great fast attacking rubber - this is the one!
Update after 2 rubbers after 1 month each:
After playing with one rubber for a month it loses about 20-30% of it's speed and about the same amount of spin.. And that's not the same rubber anymore :( And I'm speaking not 1 month training - just playing with friends 2-3 times a week . And after a month the rubber is not the same at all. This is my second MX-P on a different blade and the results are the same - 1 month and then it's nothings special.
Good alternative for Tenergy 05 or 80, but... only for first 30 hours.
After 30-50 hours of playing significantly loses quality, spin and especially tackiness.
Tested on three samples.
Very good rubber in terms of performance. Comparable to T05/T25 in terms of speed and spin. Can also block and punch with it when needed. It's one of the best Tenergy substitutes out there for the price but the weight is its downside. 2x 2.2mm is way too heavy at least for me. Had to switch to 2.0mm both sides and even that is still abit too heavy. Currently looking for a substitute to this rubber but cant find anything that will perform as good as MXP. Comes factory boosted, works well with Falco Tempo Long, lasts more than average.
The best rubber I've found for smashing and flat hitting. It's a formidable weapon on either BH or FH. Has an initial break in period of maybe 5 to 10 hours.
April 2016: I must say that I'm very disppointed with this one. Before this, I was using Acuda S1 Turbo on my forehand and it was quite fast and spinny on loops. I had hoped this one would be at par with, if not better, than my old rubber but it just doesn't seem to work that well for me. A little lighter than Acuda S1 Turbo i believe but thats just it. I'm having Aurus on my backhand and I think it's amazing but this one isn't the one for me. I'm just sitting this one out till it were off and then I'm gonna go back to my old rubber
UPDATE September 2016: I have judged this rubber very early. Although this is not the fastest out there but it certainly is one of the best. It took me sometime to get along with this one, but now I'm happy to say, it has become one of my best friends.
Great FH rubber for me. I used Tenergy 05 2.1 previously. My blade is fast medium hard all-wood 7ply DHS Hurricane Long 3. T05 was too fast and too bouncy on this blade. On close to table loops and power top spin shots balls were flying off the table, unless I close the wrist every time. Also playing against long pimples and heavy under spins T05 was difficult to control for me. MX-P offers more linear ball trajectory, better control and less reaction to incoming spin. Opening loops against chops are effortless.
Returns and touch play are very controllable. Blocks are consistent and serves are spinny. Flicks are easy due to it's speed. Overall MX-P is the great attacking rubber that will reach it's full potential if it is paired with the right blade.
It has become my racket cover of choice (after years with Tenergy). I am glad to see Megaspin carry it (so I do not have to order it from Europe anymore.) Thank you Megaspin.
Agree with the reviews below. Faster and heavier than T05 and T80. Spin is similar to T80. Great short game and control. My choice for the new BF g40+ balls.
Flexible rackets do much better with MX-P than with Tenergy. My IF ZLC feels as good or better with MX-P on than my ZJK SZLC with the same cover. Great short game control and as fast when smashed.
The best T05 alternative for me.
A little faster, maybe a little controled and cheaper. Nice FH Rubber.
Everything works well.
the best rubber that i ever use i am using timoboll alc its perfect combination in Fh the loop its rally strong and fast , control its grate , the spin one of the strongest i ever felt using a carbon blade with this rubber the best way to fell the real power and control, i give a 9.5 overall its perfect
I read somebody else describe it as a hybrid of a Chinese and a jap/Euro rubber, and I agree. It's the best really fast rubber I've used for service. It's easy to keep the ball low, short, and spinny. Short game is really good.
Once you start picking up the racket speed though, the sponge starts to compress and the speed is explosive. Here, the control isnt as good so you'll need to be really precise with your strokes.
Loops are really fast, low and have heavy spin. Even against moderate backspin, I had to close my racket angle almost as if I was looping a dead ball. My 3rd ball attacks were insanely fast, but again, I felt like i needed to be very precise or I'd miss long. Counterlooping was tricky for me as well, unless I backed off from the table considerably.
Smashing, hitting and blocking were also quite good.
I recommend this to highly skilled and very agressive players, however if you like high, slow opening topspins, or prefer to loop/counterloop from close range you may not like it.
One of the best rubber ever made, will compare it with T80 which I've been played for more than a year now. Plays like a boosted T80. Unlike T80, this rubber shows all its power even on flexible blades. T80 plays very well on stiff blades like Viscaria but feels dead on flexible blades like innerforce AL.
In fact, MX-P so much faster that IF AL + MX-P is still faster than Viscaria + T80.
The only MAJOR issue for me with MX-P is its weight. That rubber is heavy, I mean realy heavy, even Tenergies are far lighter.
But still if you are playing with ALC blade like Viscaria/TBS and seeks more power than non boosted Tenergies, you can boost your Tenergies of course.....but you can also go for MX-P. A boosted T80 with 2 layers is about the same weight as MX-P.
I'm training 18 hours per weeks, and a competition every 2 weeks. So concerning the durability compared to T80.
With T80, after 4 weeks I can already feel the lose of performances, but its quite brutal, the performance lose is huge and after 6 weeks the rubber is like not having "spring sponge" anymore, despite keeping a very good grip....the spped is no more. I change the rubber after 6 weeks maximum because its unlayable unless I boost the rubber. T05 and T64 are keeping there speed far better over time.
With MX-P, there is also a drop of performances after 4 weeks but it impacts only spin and not much speed. The drop of performances is more linear than T80. Change the rubber also after 6 weeks maxium but a 6 weeks MX-P is still playable while a T80 is realy inert.
If you love to engage your body on power top spins, this rubber (outside of boosted rubbers) is the more powerfull you can get.
Absolutely suitable for FH, perfect for any kind of serves.
It is a spin and speed monster, like a horse but keep your horses for careful shots because of its control.
I have no club but 18 years experience....
It is a Hi Tech rubber with many gears and great durability.
Ok just for kicks I tried evo EL-P and it definately didnt work for me. The MX-P is just much livelier and reacts much better to the ball. Higher throw than the EL-P with more spin and speed. Blocks return ur opponents energy very well. In comparison with the EL-P version ID have to say the MX-P feels like a speed glued version. Great thing is u don't have to speed glue. If you like playing a fast topspin attack style MX-P is golden.
This is very very equal to t05 but so much better. More spin and relatively easy to play. A couple of pros in my club have changed from t05 to this monsterrubber.
This is a fantastic FH rubber. I tried it on the Donic Appelgren Allplay and Xiom Acro. It has more spin and speed than Tenergy 80. The ball jumps off better than T80. Easy to play. This rubber makes my FH look more powerful. I like it. But this rubber shrinks about 2mm or so after regluing it several times on the blades. Weird. I would recommend to those who want an offensive FH rubber.
slightly more speed than t05, spin is same on full strokes, slightly lower on short strokes, mxp is less spin-sensitive so its easier to block. throw is a bit lower. it seems easier to control than t05 in general
Have been using this rubber for 3 weeks, 6 days per week, on my FH. It took a good week to fully adjust and get used to the play of this rubber.
It is very fast and fairly hard, with a very good amount of spin at full strokes. Short strokes produce a lot of speed and pretty good spin as well.
Looping is absolutely fantastic, though for opening loops other rubbers are probably a bit better for spin.
Cutting and blocking are both excellent as this rubber is not very sensitive to opponents spin. Flicking is also fantastic due to the speed of the rubber with very little effort.
The overall control of this rubber is pretty good (I gave 9.1), but I have not used a rubber with better control considering the speed and spin of this rubber.
Overall I think this is a great rubber, one which I will be keeping, and is perfect for mid/at the table distance all round attackers,
This stuff is fast and spinny. I moved from Donic Baracuda. Took me a good practice session to get used to it. I feel like I have to be more accurate with Evolution MX-P as compared to the softer Baracuda, but after getting used to it, my loops were stronger than usual. I began to feel more consistent without losing any power in my shots. I love how spinny serves and pushes are. I also like how well it blocks. It has great touch at the table for how fast it is.
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