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Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban (37)

 Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
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by Ben 16 years ago
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by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by Ben 16 years ago
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by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by Ben 16 years ago
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by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by anti banner 16 years ago
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by Ben 16 years ago
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by ZoranV 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by anti banner 16 years ago
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by Arin Guven 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Ben 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Ben 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by gazanfer yavuz 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by Fadil Olguner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by anti banner 16 years ago
 Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban
by JRSDallas 16 years ago
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by anti banner 16 years ago


The following message (subject: Re: Insider,Swing Back IF and Frustration ban) was posted by Fadil Olguner, on 7/15/2008 6:44:49 AM:
To find my conspiracy based on a lack of logic is your point of view,I have nothing to say.For the boosters I can say that ,not all the boosters are chemical assistance.Even linen oil and some other oil have tuner effect,so it is not true that puplic doesn't distinguish between speed glue,boosters and tuners.Speed glue is harmfull to health but others not.Nobody has right to put speed glue and boosters in the same category.In fact to think they are same is the lack of logic-as you have said. Noone can explain me why ITTF will ban boosters and tuners although they are not banned for manifactures.As I have written before,the reason is-players have learnt the cheap way of tuning by boosters and tuners and in order to stop them ITTF will ban tuning for players.If a player wants tuned rubber,he has to pay 50 dollars to the manifacturer for it.It is as clear as twice two is four. I agree with you that the ban has been poorly administered and pursued.Manifactuers have done their best to get around the ban test as away of defeating the goals of ban and they are succesfull .As you have said before speed glue has shortened the life of rubber and not to use speed glue couse the manifacturers to sell less rubbers each year,so ITTF to cover this will ban tuning for players and have free for the manifacturers.But players will not protect themselves to the goals of bans. Who told the ban has been clear?Everyday IFFF changes it.Now a new ban is coming for insider and Hallmark rubbers although they are completely legal according to the ITTF rules now.Not to be an objective observer is your idea sorry. Will you please tell me how do you know that at least some manifacturs didn't submit samples for testing?But of course if there is something wrong we have to blame others not ITTF.They are always right.They have done nothing wrong.I am sure that ITTF is responsible for all these wrong banning about rubber sheets.Even their Friction Test machine does not give reliable results.So they have changed the list regularly.In fact Ittf has no wright to change the banned list so often.A player buys a new sheet of rubber but a day later he learns thar it is banned.So what is this ? About the manifacturers selected sheet did not respond a typical sheet of model.Give us an example please.What manifacturer has send what sheet. I agree with you that if everyone involved work together with high levels of comminications so that everything would be clear and done well first time is difficult.But they have done a lot of mistakes more than a normal.I am sure that not first time but if they have done ten times they will continue these mistakes. In short dear JRS Dallas,this ITTF is killing table tennis and must go.The sooner is better. PS-This is my idea of course
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