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One of the best of its kind (medium hard semi tacky rubber). Little bit more pricy than rakza z and sieger pk but with more speed and punching power and higher arc aswell. It 44 degrees but feels not hard to me, i only play hard rubbers they just suits better for my taste. My coach was impressed how i was playing on the 1st training session with this rubber on butterfly timo ball caf, there was no need to adapt after rakza z and sieger at all. Spin is almost the same but ability to put hard balls on the table and speed/accuracy is definitely stands for dignics due to higher arc and spring sponge x. Overall very good and high quality product.
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Great durable rubber. Compared to a tuned h3 national id say this rubber is close but still doesnt have the ease of use particularly because the low throw of the h3 nat vs 09c medium to high angle. However the slight tackiness does allow more dwell and spring sponge x is very reactive . Im very pleased with this rubber and am using it as an alternative to a tuned h3 nat.

Pros: Fast, Spiny with good touch in the short game and good spin potential for serves.

Cons: Most expensive rubber in the Market. Medium to High Throw will take time to adjust to especially if your coming for H3 Tunes Nat
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Great rubber, maybe the best Butterfly rubber ever made. It requires active play with complete swings no lazy half strokes. It is less sensitive to incoming spin then any other Tenergy or Dignics rubber. Crazy expensive compared to other brands with same characteristics like Nittaku Sieger PK50 what I have been playing for the last year. The 09C it does have an edge over the Nittaku but not by much, it is also a bit harder, a bit faster and less sensitive to incoming spin but with the PK50 is easier to generate spin from slow dead balls due to a bit softer sponge. Overall I love the rubber even if does not justifies his high price in my opinion. In the end remember, Is not the bow, is not the arrow, ...is the Indian! Equipment does not matter if you do not train consistently.
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Very good for back hand ! Forehand you better have full swing and perfect form or a lot of balls will go off table and no because if speed because of high throw angle , also tons of spin more than any other rubber, also do not clean with water only rubber cleaner went through 4 of these already because of water cleaning also good on returning serves it eats up the other players spin and great for blocking enjoy !!
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Very spiny but need to be perfect form or ball will fly off table but not because if it’s speed it’s actually not that fast it’s very very good for blocking and very good on serve returns but the worst thing is it’s durability and price
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At first i was throwing the ball too deep and returned to my hurricanes. But tried again and never looked back. Dignics 09C deliver power, with precision as you request it within each shot.
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After switching from T05 to D09C my control was visibly improved. I lost a little speed, barely noticeable, but overall D09C gave me a lot confidence in my serves and attacks on the 3rd ball. I remember when I tried it for the first time, the superior control of this rubber, was the first things I noticed. Not the speed (on distance play) and not the huge spin.
Except the price, this is the ultimate "uber" rubber for my playing style.
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Butterfly's answer to boosted Battle 2 or Shining Dragon. Definitely slower than e.g. Dignics 80 and such "normal" rubbers. D09C is for those into faster boosted Chinese rubbers who for some reason prefer Butterfly. Spin on serves is not second to Battle 2. The induced spin is deep and can be deceptive.
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To preface this review I'm an average table tennis player, played around 3-5 times a week 3 hours each. I still train with a coach every week to correct my strokes and to improve my gameplay. My FH is said to have very high topspin.

Old Setup: BH Fastarc G1, FH DHS H3N BS Prov., Petr Korbel
Previous Setup: BH Ten05, FH Ten05, Viscaria
Current Setup: BH Ten05, FH D09C, Viscaria

So after a month or two this is my understanding of the rubber relative to Ten05.
Pros:
- does not bottom out as easily
- last longer
- significantly better control
- easier to counter loop
- better feeling, ball stays with the blade longer.
- quality of the spin is just tremendous, though not as much as DHS H3N.
- I feel that my smash is better

(All this pros may results from my improvements in my strokes as, so you may or may not find similar result. but hey, my coach and friends said i improved significantly after using this rubber, probably table tennis is a pay to win sport after all.)

Neutral concerns:
- i need to adjust the angle of my strokes
- i can no longer do lazy shots
- Blocking angle is also very different

Cons:
- Weight, its heavy, this ruins my BH flick as the blade becomes significantly heavier and BH flick requires high acceleration.
- Forces you to readjust much of your strokes to accommodate the rubber since it is unlike any other tensor rubbers or Chinese tacky rubber.
- price, its too expensive. I get it, they need to make it more expensive than the Tenergy series, but come on, its just a crazy price for a rubber.

In conclusion i believe this rubber will be adopted by players who has money to spare and loves imparting huge amount of spin to their shots but this rubber is not for those who prefer smashing or have just started playing table tennis. Yes, this rubber has huge control but its heavy, if the player can't hit properly they may injure their elbow or shoulder or even wrist. For me, I think I will stick to this set up for a long time.
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Viscaria (84g) + D09C 2.1 red (48.9g) + T05 2.1 bk (44.2g)
Amultart (88g) + D09C 1.9 black (47g) + D05 1.9 red (43g)
The speed is clearly not 8.5, because it depends a lot on how it pairs with the blade. You get full power and high speed when fully engaging the body, and you get less power when playing relax (in that way, T05 is faster than D09C)
On viscaria, it is a pure looping machine, with the possibility to chop the ball 2-3m away. Counter spin on D09C is nice but needs to adapt. Better success rate with T05 so far, but it is a question of practice.
On amultart (hitoki carbon), the 1.9mm is excellent, adding possibilities to really do efficient flat smash even at mid distance ! and chopping is really amazing with D09C 1.9 ! The spin at mid distance is excellent even in 1.9mm on amultart, this is a good surprise. This rubber helps to develop get a better panel of game and variations, compared to pure looping combinaison (TB ALC/Viscaria + T05 for instance).
Cons : indeed blocks are a bit tricky on Amultart, but very safe with Viscaria and T05 2.1. Amultart/D09C is shinning more on agressive blocks and smash, and Viscaria/T05 is more on the side of counter, spin, and good control in passive play. Depends on playing style, but to me, Amultart + D09C has better gears and allows more variation in the game. It is more funny than D05 1.9.
I tried D09C 1.9 on Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+carbon, which is Hinoki carbon as amultart, but the feeling is totally different ! The ball stick on D09C, I mean the rubber absorb the ball, so the speed is low, but the control is indeed much better in passive play. Very strange (as same rubber, same glue, etc... just blade was changed).
D09C 2.1mm is pairing very well on TB ALC (84g) and Viscaria. It is too furious on Amultart and smash success rate is decreased at lot. So to me, D09C 1.9mm is really the best for Amultart.
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A dissapointment. There are at least 5-6 better rubbers with the same "configuration"
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It's an amazing rubber I must say. Your control and spin will improve a lot if you were using tennergy 05 before like me. I'm using in the FH with Timo Boll ALC and even being a hard and fast blade this combination is killer. The grip is the best I ever tried so far and the sponge is really hard but somehow it doesn't feel hard when you hit softly. When you hit hard you can feel the hardness however the curve is really good to make the ball cross the net and touch the table. Comparing with Tennergy 05 the speed is not that different but Tennergy has way more catapult and this is where the control is affected and I assume that is why 09c gives you much better control. The downside is that you need much more effort to hit the ball for attacking and also need to brush the boll a bit better than you would do with Tennergy because there is little or no help from the sponge for it however after a bit of practice I got used and now I feel that is really difficult to play with Tennergy and very easy to play with 09c because of the control. The price is really high but it lasts way more than tennergy so I think it compensates for the higher price. Also planning to change my backhand to this rubber as after trying a little bit I felt a big improvement in my control however you need to have a good technique to hit good shots with BH which is not my strongest skill.
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Expensive, worth the money. Forehand play and lets you attack and attack more with accuracy. For serves is very punchy and returns can have lots of possibilities. Must take time to get use to its proper technique.
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For real! Play Nittaku Sieger PK 50 INSTEAD, INSANE! Better spin by far, the strokes are even and there is spin i never have experienced. A backhand loop is a kill in the nextcoming shot, the service are extreme*2 Not so sensitive to incomping spin. And you get 2 for the price of one., BUT, i had boght 1 onlyanyway if the price was good. And it is 44E for the best money can buy, Bougth a Yasaka Rakza Z which was also very good, but ended after playig 2 hours 5 days a week. The Nittaku? Does seem to just be taken out of the cover for gluing! Extreme anything. This is a whole new level of TT. People who have followed my recommendations have already stepped one or 2 level. Butterflly also good, but far far from The Deutsche Sieger!
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Disappointed
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First impression of d09c was bad. I was really disapointed. Slow and high throw angel. I was not safe in my game and wanted to change. But I gave this rubber a chance and played a while...After the rubber was break in the beast was awaked. If you play with full power the ball will explode on the other side of the table. The feeling is like tenergy 05 hard but the spin is higher. Short game is good. Topspin on backspin very good. Serve has not so many spin cause of the hard rubber. Very Important Whenn you block you have to Close your Racket angel... Down side of this rubber the surface looks after one week already worn like a tacky chinese rubber. Butterfly has to do something on this point! It costs 80 euro!!! Overall a Very good weapon for offensiv aggressiv players who like to attack on thrid ball. UPDATE: After three months the kick effect is gone! Not worthy for that price!
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Update in the 7th row, 2nd update in 9th row (Im leaving the first impressions here to give you an idea of the "struggles" at the beginning). Using it on Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon. Been using it for a month now and my game is improving rapidly. Price is insane im not arguing. As for features i'd say these: serve is good (not insanely good), serve return is quite easy, short game is good (not special), looping and smashing can be good if u put the effort (found it good for chopping as well, i wonder if defenders will change from T05 or not). This rubber shines when u use big swings and hit the ball really strong and fast (as opposed to Tenergy, where u get high amount of spin even with smaller moves). I think D09C is going to be a one-try for many players, its good if u already have it, but not gonna purchase another one. Update (2 months in): now i find it better than Tenergy05. Control is definitely higher, i think even the spin is higher (u can hit insane shots, even from heavy backspin), and the sponge is harder so if u can hit it harder u get more speed and power. Its very difficult to play againts. Good for both FH and BH. 2nd update: now I use it on both sides and i probably wont change neither for a long time. As I mentioned, blocks, serves, pushes (both short and long), service return are all better than other popular high end rubbers, looping is crazy, drives are consistent. 09C is quite insensitive to the incoming ball, therefore i would recommend it to low level players as well. Dignics' durability is just insane, after the first few trainings the topsheet starts to look a bit different but thats not altering the rubber at all. My brother has been using D80 for 9 months now (6 times a week, average 4 hours a day) and it hasnt lost any gears, ofc same goes for my 09c after 3 months. I'd recommend the rubber to anyone now after 3 months, in the long run its going to step up everyones game i think.
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Hi table tennis lovers,
like to give you an idea how I play. FH and BH looping,close to the table. Former squad player and I player the german championship in my youth. then 12 years of break. i am back since two years. training 3-4 times a week.
I would say my technique is good and my arm swing is fast enough to handle that rubber, I thought....to be honest, if you are not timo boll or any other pro player i dont think youll having advantages with this rubber. Of course its super spinny and controllable especially over the table but the biggest con is its heaviness. Wooow! I was playing with it for two weeks and the weight effected my bh very badly cos the weight of the blade goes into the head. I tried it on viscaria and infinity, enjoyed it more on the visc. but still as I said its not for beginners or even amateurs. And then butterfly is asking 80, are you serious guys. My advice: Get a cheaper rubber and a training session with a proper coach, on the long run you will have more out of that. For me, i am happy i tried it and nothing more,...
back to my old set up. its better to land 10 out of 10 on the table instead of 4 direct winners... dont get distracted by the pros its the best, bla bla - they get money for it, maybe its the best for them. ask yourself , do you play as good as boll?
cheers guys !
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Got one second hand, nearly new from my coach and i'm loving it. It replaced the T05 on my forehand and the arc is clearly higher on D09C, however you really need to do a bit of extra effort to your stroke for that extra topspin. I feel that the serves land a bit shorter on the table with it and i also get a bit of more control out of it. I will admit, it's expensive, but you should like it once you give it a go
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Very good, but the 100 euro cost trade for a spin i can get in 1 Nittaku Sieger AND 1 Yasaka Rakza Z and not alot of gears, bad durabiity doesnt save this, even if i like the rubber. Go for Above mentioned rubbers if you want most spin in the world right now. I kid you not.
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9.6/10 for ALL style. FH: Nittaku H3 Pro Turbo Orange, 1.8mm, 55g (0.267g/cm^2), 45 degrees (Nittaku), 41 degrees (Shore A). BH: Butterfly Dignics 09c, 1.9mm, 53g (0.258g/cm^2), 44 degrees (Shore A). Blade: Stiga Allround Classic WRB, 65g, 158mm x 151mm x 5.3mm (Width x Height x Thickness). Hollow handle. Plies: 5 (Wood): Limba - Ayous - Ayous - Ayous - Limba.
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Use 2,1 mm black on FH with Yasaka Ma Lin carbon ch. pen. Compared with unboosted DHS H3 Neo provincial blue spong 40 degree: H3 is better for me in overall - better spin in serves, better control and spin in short game, equal or slightly more spin when you loop. Drive and weak hit are faster with dignics 09c but if you hit hard, H3 will provide more speed. So not many gears in 09c. Block is easier with H3 (traditional penhold backhand block). D09c has a very high throw angle, for me it is too high, it takes a lot of time to adjust your technic. For me, flat hit is very difficult with D09c, however counterloop is very good and easy. Of course, i know nothing about D09c durability, but I use D80 on the BH side and H3 has much better durability compared to D80.
To sum up: I prefer tacky chinese rubber on Fh side. Maybe it's because of my playing style or I don't know, but I don't feel any special in D09c. And another thing: after 7 months of use, i put my racket on the ball and I can still lift it from the table with H3. With 09c, you can't do it even if it's new. So it has a little tackiness but in my opinion, it's not a real "hybrid" rubber with tacky surface.
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Rubber is a little bit tacky, easy to block and do drop-shots. Very good spinny rubber. I have this at forehand in both Timo Boll ALC and Zhang Jike ALC blades. The rubber behaves a bit differently on these. ZJ Alc is more direct and TB Alc is a bit safer to hit the ball. I like this rubber a lot, but bare in mind that I have only 5 hours practice so far..
Update. 2 months practice now. Price is really high, even unbearable. Serves are very spinny, Currently Zhang Jike in use, TB arc is way too high.
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I`m falling in love with this rubber. Its change my playing style a lot. Very spinny rubber. I use it on FH and this rubber perfect for backhand too. The only problem is the weight. I'm penholder and use stiga mantra on BH. My blade weight now is 195 gram with rubber. I hope butterfly can make it more lightweight so i can use it for my BH too.

Update: after 2 month, it become very hard to play. You need to buy new one to get that "feeling". This is not worth for money. Just buy donic m2, you'll get similar feeling
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