As a looper, I was searching for more speed with very good control/touch - the impossible, as we all are. The TSP balsas are excellent and gave me almost what I searched for. The 6.5 & 8.5 gave the speed & penetration of shot right for me, while the slightly slower TSP Black balsa 7.0 gave excellent control.
The Xiom Zetro Quad combines the two, perfect for what I was looking for.
Having tried several Xiom blades, they are well crafted and very high on control and feel. My experience was they all play slower than most ratings suggest, so aim slightly faster than you think you are looking for.
Other blades tried recently were:
Butterfly Primorac - lovely allround bat but too slow for me.
Butterfly Michael Maze - way faster than rated here and no control at all! Mad hitter's blade.
Xiom Vega Pro & Novus - lovely feel and All or All+ speeds.
In addition, I was able to practise yesterday with the Butterfly Boll ALC and the Xiom Stradivarius. The ALC felt a fraction quicker off the blade with loop, otherwise both were vitually identical in feel and speed to the Zetro Quad.
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I like how consistent the reviews are for this blade and I agree with 95% of the reviewers. My zetro weighed in at 89g with 6.9mm thickness. It's stiff, and has a soft/dull feel (little to no vibration). It doesnt flex much (just a lil), but you get enough vibration for a lil feedback. Its not the fastest blade but it fits my style because i play close to mid distance. The dwell on this is amazing with medium/hard rubbers. Andro powergrip and t05 are good FH, and i like donic bluefire m3 for BH.
Mine is a ST handle that is extra wide weighs 89.2g & measured 7.25mm thick! The hinoki top layer is pretty thick. This blade is fast but not too fast. just ideal for competition. The amount of spin it produces is enormous. Besides the good spin, this blade can produce wide range of speed: from slow touch shots to medium fast loop shots to very fast smashing shots. Smashes are fast & spinny and also harder to return due to the curvy trajectory and somewhat inconsistent due to the graphite kicking in @ 2nd gear. The sound pitch & volume changes as the graphite layer is kicking in, making a loud popping sound. When I played with other blades before, I tried to hit hard to win the point. But with this blade, I don't have to hit that hard, but just try to loop side spin then watch my opponent miss hit. You can slow loop easily and aim for a wide angle shot with better placement because the ball will dip onto the table. The serves can be short but spinny so are the pushes. Prefer softer rubber for this blade like Razka7 Soft.
I am trying to decide which blade to be my main blade: Zetro Quad or Treiber Z, both are great for all around offensive strokes & game. XZQ has more spin vs Treiber Z slightly more speed & control. My rating:
Speed=9.2. Control=8.8. Sweetspot=large. Stiffness=7. Hardness=6. Feel=med hard. Balance=very good. Spin=9.3. Short Game=very good. Med Game=very good. Short Serve=excellent & spinny. Flicks=very easy. Push/Chop=very good. Throw=med. Flat hit=average. Block=excellent . ST Handle=extra wide. Dwell=good. Loop=very good(grippy & secure). Drive=very good. Overall=9.5
I am trying to decide which blade to be my main blade: Zetro Quad or Treiber Z, both are great for all around offensive strokes & game. XZQ has more spin vs Treiber Z slightly more speed & control. My rating:
Speed=9.2. Control=8.8. Sweetspot=large. Stiffness=7. Hardness=6. Feel=med hard. Balance=very good. Spin=9.3. Short Game=very good. Med Game=very good. Short Serve=excellent & spinny. Flicks=very easy. Push/Chop=very good. Throw=med. Flat hit=average. Block=excellent . ST Handle=extra wide. Dwell=good. Loop=very good(grippy & secure). Drive=very good. Overall=9.5
Xiom zero quad is a very nice blade I used to use butterfly gergly then shifted to xiom strato also a unique blade but this one is a bit different it lacks in power No problem but a little effort can solve,I am using donic bluefire m2 on both sides this blade has it all, doesn't matter how hard your opponent topspin the ball the ball is back on the table my strongest opponent is a guy using ox rubber both sides this guy used to make all players confused chopping and topspin used to become a big problem, it was hard to get the ball on the table, I tried even the amultart but was all in vein this one xiom zero quad has it all doesn't matter what your opponent is upto remember the game is yours , this blade changes the Damn situation and I love it . I am not an intermediate player though medium but I compete with intermediate players they to ask me how you get such a strong topspin on the table back this blade can make your opponents frustrate if you have the right skill while playing I also have the yasaka malin with approximately same feel but I prefer zetro quad becoz I have noticed one thing in zetro & my strato when I topspin the ball it goes slow but when it touches the table it becomes so fast & aggressive becomes difficult for opponents get the ball back, At last I will say ladies & gentelmen try this blade out and enjoy every moment of the game
At first, I bought the Xiom Zetro Quad because it looked so nice that I had to make it mine.
After about 2 years of playing with it, I've begun to love this blade. and I will explain why.
The Zetro Quad is a carbon blade, with Zylon Carbon. Generally, carbon blades are known for making the blade lighter and faster but on the flipside, losing feel/dwell time and control.
What I've found though, is that the XZQ behaves like both wood and carbon blades, it has a remarkable wood-like amount of feel and dwell time, resulting in a ridiculous amount of spin and perfect control. On the other hand, it also powers the ball very well, as well as coming in very light- mine was only 86g. 7mm blade for 86g is pretty good.
It has been said that this blade is a loopers' dream and I can most definitely confirm this! The ZXQ, with its controllable carbon and hinoki layer results in the ball sinking into the wood resulting in control, as well as powerful shots. I use Xiom Omega IV Europe Max both sides and it is very controllable as well as fast enough to kill shots.
My only downside to this blade is that the edges are a little sharp so they require sanding, and it's a little expensive. For what it is though, the XZQ is on par with the top Butterfly blades for less than half the price.
After about 2 years of playing with it, I've begun to love this blade. and I will explain why.
The Zetro Quad is a carbon blade, with Zylon Carbon. Generally, carbon blades are known for making the blade lighter and faster but on the flipside, losing feel/dwell time and control.
What I've found though, is that the XZQ behaves like both wood and carbon blades, it has a remarkable wood-like amount of feel and dwell time, resulting in a ridiculous amount of spin and perfect control. On the other hand, it also powers the ball very well, as well as coming in very light- mine was only 86g. 7mm blade for 86g is pretty good.
It has been said that this blade is a loopers' dream and I can most definitely confirm this! The ZXQ, with its controllable carbon and hinoki layer results in the ball sinking into the wood resulting in control, as well as powerful shots. I use Xiom Omega IV Europe Max both sides and it is very controllable as well as fast enough to kill shots.
My only downside to this blade is that the edges are a little sharp so they require sanding, and it's a little expensive. For what it is though, the XZQ is on par with the top Butterfly blades for less than half the price.
an unexpected feeling from a carbon blade and control, stiff but soft, fast, but controllable, i could not find the speed and sound I'm looking for with vega elite. but workmanship is great and the blade looks very smart. so I should give a chance with vega pro when I started regular training program. dwell time is great, a real spin machine, controlable but powerful. isn't a very stiff and hard blade at all, like wooden.
excellent build quality, weight 86g and only 6.7mm thick and nice handle too. definitely off blade. comparing with xiom stradivarious/xiom v1. all the blade were used with xiom vega pro max both sides and played at same session. speed: stradivarious & zetro,v1 spin: zetro & stradivarious, v1. hard to seperate strad/zetro both high spin, i think zetro might be a touch more spin, you get that slight dwelly feeling on big strokes. loops: stradivarious & zetro, v1. all three blades are monster when looping, but i found more comfortable with first two blades better feeling. feel of blade: zetro medium soft feel, stradivarious medium feel, v1 hard feel. all three blade are very flexy on big shoots even zetro which is thicker, amazing. overall one of the best blade i have ever used, still cant decide between stradivarious and zetro , in which one to use as my first choice. all three blades are also good for all other strokes, close or far. serious defenders might not like it, althought i was able to play defensive aswell.
Perfect topspin blade!
Combinated with the right rubbers this is a real spin-machine.
The best combination i tryed for my playing is with the tibhar evolution series
This blade is not so fast is in the middle of a off and off+ speed
But control is high for a offensive blade
I like the touch, i can feel a crisp sound
The arc in topsins is medium-high and this helps you in controlling the topspins
Weight: my distrubutor had 7 zetroquads so I weighted them and choose the lightest and is 85 grams, so in my case really good weight
This blade really helped me to improve the speed and spin of my top spins and my game in general
Really like this blade, good technique required
Combinated with the right rubbers this is a real spin-machine.
The best combination i tryed for my playing is with the tibhar evolution series
This blade is not so fast is in the middle of a off and off+ speed
But control is high for a offensive blade
I like the touch, i can feel a crisp sound
The arc in topsins is medium-high and this helps you in controlling the topspins
Weight: my distrubutor had 7 zetroquads so I weighted them and choose the lightest and is 85 grams, so in my case really good weight
This blade really helped me to improve the speed and spin of my top spins and my game in general
Really like this blade, good technique required
Looper blade, nice crisp sound and good feeling, make you confident with full power topspin, still can do good topspin even it doesnt good touch the best part of the blade. If you a looper and you now using off - blade and want to upgrade, this is not bad choice. H3 fh and sriver bh, but i think i can use faster rubber on bh side.
This blade is a looper'a paradise. I tried couple of combinations with this blade to determine what suits best for my topspin laden attacking game. On my FH I tried TibharMXP, Tenergy 05fx, Rasant Turbo and R47. In all cases I was effortlessly able to topspin with high degree of speed, spin and accuracy, so the credit for the quality of the game obviously goes to the blade :). On the BH, I struggled adjusting to the stiffness and speed of the blade - I started with my regular long time BH rubber that I use on all my other blades, Donic BF M2 but it was difficult to loop with it on this blade, so I switched to T05 Fx but it's spring sponge resultant bounce n speed limited the accuracy of by BH attack, now I have a softer Baracuda BS max and my BH attack is much better.
great blade, great touch, but you must use rubber on backhand with low throw angle
A solid offensive blade, but personally for me it was lacking in comfort. It is on average heavier, mine was 91g. I found after using this blade that I would prefer lighter blades. The weight felt even heavier due to the handle, which I didn't find very comfortable. It's on the smaller side and has a rectangular shape - as opposed to oval shaped. My total paddle weight with Tibhar EL-P max and T05FX 1.9 was 186g (with grip tape), but felt much heavier than that and head heavy. Just one thing to keep in mind - some players may even prefer this! Other than comfort, this blade is great for a power offensive game, very strong for topspin play. It is quite thick and with the zylon you won't get a lot of feel or vibration, but it is still quite good in the short game. What you do get is good power and speed. Very secure mid to long distance from the table.
Intrigued by its design & use of Kiso Hinoki/ZLC.I could just not resist but I tryed before buying.Most of my many blades are all wood Limba.So Hinoki is a new wood to me.I am not disapointed at all and that famous feel is REAL.Zetro Quad is precise with excellent feel,soft with good dwell ,light vibrations in no way affecting control.7mm thickness gives the blade great blocking and stability.Quickly Zetro Quad became one of my trusted blades besides Clipper and Hybrid Wood NCT.
Using Bluefire M1 and Rakza 7 in 2mm both sides. It is very thick... Great blade for looping and blocking is good but one disadvantage is feeling. I switched from a Yasaka extra blade which was all wood and slower than this. After the switch i noticed the feedback I got was very dull compared to an all wood blade, but you can get used to it pretty quickly.
Update: Pushing game is weak with this blade. Angle and power when pushing needs to be adjusted.
Update: Pushing game is weak with this blade. Angle and power when pushing needs to be adjusted.
It's verry consistant blade to perform spin and loopping with speed and excellent control. Smash to kill the opponent also easy to perform. Combine with P7 adidas and T80 it's good match combination, overall lovely so much this blade. One of famous blade manufacture by Xiom. Great...!!
Blade 1 XZQ 84grm weight (light)
Rubber : FH P7. BH T80 all max
Blade 2 Adidas carbon strike
Rubber : FH Stiga boost TC. BH P5 all max
Blade 1 XZQ 84grm weight (light)
Rubber : FH P7. BH T80 all max
Blade 2 Adidas carbon strike
Rubber : FH Stiga boost TC. BH P5 all max
Quite stiff as it is pretty thick, but really soft thanks to the hinoki outer ply. This blade is excellent for both looping and countering : you can really make the ball spin a lot thanks to its softness (and, I think, the Zylon underneath the outer ply) and it's quite high throw angle, but it's also really good for blocking. It's quite fast (let's say OFF), but really easy to control over the table, especially in short game, it can "grab" the ball and allow you to drop it right behind the net.
I still need to totally get used to it on my FH, especially for more powerful shots, but it's a really good OFF blade if you rely a lot on looping.
I still need to totally get used to it on my FH, especially for more powerful shots, but it's a really good OFF blade if you rely a lot on looping.
Lovely blade, very good craftsmanship. Using it for the last 4 month with RASANT (1.9mm) and SIGMA Europe1 (2.0mm). Plays well on slow shots not too bouncy. Slow spiny loops are easy to do, blocking is fantastic, and on the hard strokes second layer of carbon is notice-able and gives a different sound and the second gear, that you need to be aware of.
The Xiom Zetro Quad is a beautifully crafted blade, first day of testing i can say its match ALC speed and i can say perfect control, i have paired with Xiom Vega euro 2.0 on BH and Vega Pro 2.0 on FH.
I will play with Xiom for a month and than i will decide will i stay with Zetro or i will be back to ALC
I will play with Xiom for a month and than i will decide will i stay with Zetro or i will be back to ALC
This was reputed to be a copy of the Innerforce ZLC but it is nothing like it. It's a little stiff and works well with slightly softer rubbers and possibly a pip if you wanted to one. Picked it up for a very reasonable ¬57 from Celtic Table Tennis and for the money it's great value. It's a consistent blade and one that you can rely on in a game / competition but for me it lacked the passion of the Innerforce ZLC. It might have been the Hinoki outer piles that I didn't gel with. Blade weighed 90 grams with a blocky straight handle that was quite decent. Sensitive to heavy rubbers and the balance of it meant that you were restricted on the thickness of using heavy new generation rubbers or tenergies. Once the blade exceeded 182 grams it felt too heavy. Would still give it 'top marks' but it didn't have the hallmarks of an illicit one night embrace.
With XSEI and XSEII. Very spinny. Stroke has to be a little slower to increase dwell time and therefore increase spin. Has to have a good brushing technique too. Can also use fast stroke to increase speed with little effect on spin. Ball kicks off upon touching the other side of the table.
Great blade. Has a very soft feel. If you play tennis, it has the feel of natural gut strings ona tennis racquet. Great for smashes and all spins. The only issue I have with it is when I play a fast hitter, if I catch the ball near the end, it feels like the ball is bending the blade and deflecting outside where I was intending
This blade is quite unique, in that its like 3 different blades built into one. First, it can play like an allround blade. Kiso-hinoki is a very soft wood that Xiom has incorporated into their top ply. The softness allows for a very controlled over the table game. At the same time, Zetro Quad can be quite offensive. Xiom has placed two layers of carbon near the center of the blade which are best known for added speed and stiffness. The carbon is only noticeable during fast rallies and smashing due to its deep placement within the plies. Then comes the Zylon, which gives the blade an Off- feeling when spinning the ball.
Over the table, the Xiom Zetro some how keeps my serves a little tighter to the net. It might have something to do with the added weight (Zetro weighed 90gr). I also noticed that my service returns stayed nice and short, causing problems for my opponent to loop the third ball effectively.
Hitting rallies during warm-up felt exceptionally good. When the ball contacts the rubber, it gives off this pleasant sound and feeling to the hand. The racket was very easy to control.
In looping situations 1-3 feet from the table, I had to come over top of the ball more than normal to get the ball on the table. This created a very spinny ball with low arc. Then I realized if I'd swing with 60% of my strength, instead of the 80% I'd become accustomed to with other blades, the ball would hit the table with much higher accuracy. I'm not exactly sure how the Zylon aids in spinning the ball, but my usual practice partner was having a difficult time returning my loops. Looping 5-8 feet or so from the table is where you start to feel the carbon come into play. Other blades, TB ZLF, TB Spirit, Keyshot, they find their limits around this distance. Zetro keeps shining. I was able to loop balls down below my knees from 10+ feet out and have them land in the center of the opponents side using 80% strength. Amazing.
Smashing was fun. The ping sound from the carbon cries out with each smash. Interesting to me, I suppose cause I haven't used carbon in years.
I did some spinless lobbing to set up for the distant loop drives/counter attacks and it was remarkably easy with the Z Quad. And trust me, I suck at being defensive.
Overall, this is my favorite blade, as it does so many things well. True, TB ZLF, controls the short game and looping, but it runs out of steam away from the table. And the ZLC I have, lacks control over the table. On top of that, the Quad costs half as much and does it all.
Over the table, the Xiom Zetro some how keeps my serves a little tighter to the net. It might have something to do with the added weight (Zetro weighed 90gr). I also noticed that my service returns stayed nice and short, causing problems for my opponent to loop the third ball effectively.
Hitting rallies during warm-up felt exceptionally good. When the ball contacts the rubber, it gives off this pleasant sound and feeling to the hand. The racket was very easy to control.
In looping situations 1-3 feet from the table, I had to come over top of the ball more than normal to get the ball on the table. This created a very spinny ball with low arc. Then I realized if I'd swing with 60% of my strength, instead of the 80% I'd become accustomed to with other blades, the ball would hit the table with much higher accuracy. I'm not exactly sure how the Zylon aids in spinning the ball, but my usual practice partner was having a difficult time returning my loops. Looping 5-8 feet or so from the table is where you start to feel the carbon come into play. Other blades, TB ZLF, TB Spirit, Keyshot, they find their limits around this distance. Zetro keeps shining. I was able to loop balls down below my knees from 10+ feet out and have them land in the center of the opponents side using 80% strength. Amazing.
Smashing was fun. The ping sound from the carbon cries out with each smash. Interesting to me, I suppose cause I haven't used carbon in years.
I did some spinless lobbing to set up for the distant loop drives/counter attacks and it was remarkably easy with the Z Quad. And trust me, I suck at being defensive.
Overall, this is my favorite blade, as it does so many things well. True, TB ZLF, controls the short game and looping, but it runs out of steam away from the table. And the ZLC I have, lacks control over the table. On top of that, the Quad costs half as much and does it all.
this is a spin monster especially paired with Xiom Sigma euro, it does all kind of spin from near to far distance top/side/under just name it....
the 4 layers of composites is interesting. this blade is not hard like other carbon blades i have used. it is not fast by carbon standard but it has a lot of control. i think this is a well balance blade. i would rate this blade between OFF and OFF- as oppose to OFF+. i use Tibhar Grip-S FH and Nittaku Fastarc S-1 BH. works well with any rubber!
I've just got my TT bat.
Weight: 88g (factory value 85g). 170 g with Vega Europe (2.0 mm) and Omega IV Pro (2,0 mm).
Very good quality of workmanship, very good first impression.
I am looking ahead for playing with and compare with Axelo (with Omega IV Pro) I currently play with.
From Xiom: Axelo is OFF++ suitable for smash+spin, Zetro Quad is specially built for Top spin. Quad is marketed as OFF+.
Weight: 88g (factory value 85g). 170 g with Vega Europe (2.0 mm) and Omega IV Pro (2,0 mm).
Very good quality of workmanship, very good first impression.
I am looking ahead for playing with and compare with Axelo (with Omega IV Pro) I currently play with.
From Xiom: Axelo is OFF++ suitable for smash+spin, Zetro Quad is specially built for Top spin. Quad is marketed as OFF+.
Ok, I'm a two wing looper that is working on being a better flat hitter over the table to finish points. I'm probably a mid 1900's to low 2000 player who relies on strong serve and serve return to set up points. The ability to spin the ball is far more necessary to me than the actual overall speed of the setup I'm playing. I play a fairly Chinese style of forehand with a punchy backhand on a fairly athletic 6'5" frame.
The Xiom Zetro Quad is a beautifully crafted blade. It's a very unique construction. Think of a Stradivarius, or TBS in which they changed out the Arylate Carbon with just carbon and shaved about a mm off of the core. After that slap a thin layer of Zylon on it and put another mm of Hinoki on the top. This comes out to a solid 7 mm thick blade. Typically I play a thinner blade, but I had read that this is a pretty snappy flexible blade, and that kept my eye on the blade till I finally broke down and got it.
Serves: This is the one area where I seem to do pretty well with any blade as long as it's not a ridiculously stiff blade. The Zetro Quad is not ridiculously stiff, so it was really pretty good on the serve side. It's very controlled. It is easy to apply quite a bit of spin, and surprisingly it's pretty easy to keep the ball nice and short.
Loops: Doesn't matter what kind of loop. The brush loop is nice and easy. I actually think the brush loop is more rubber type dependent than it is blade dependent. Loop drives are absolutely great with this blade. They are very crisp and have a lot of bite on them. It doesn't produce quite as much kick off the table as the Stradivarius, but it isn't devoid of it like a lot of carbon blades. Since getting the Zetro Quad I have really gotten a better understanding of using the entire table as it pertains to looping. Short angles, heavy driving angles have been very easy and controlled with this blade.
Counters: This is the stroke that I have been pretty poor at most of the time. I took some time playing with a very stiff blade to work on this stroke just go get a good idea of how it could help me in game play. Then switched back to the Stradivarius which was so flexible that this stroke was just very difficult to control. After having gotten the Zetro Quad I have found the best balance of being able to flat drive the ball, and loop all in the same blade. This has been a difficult search, but I'm very satisfied in retrospect. I have no intentions of switching from this blade anytime soon.
Blocks: I haven't found any blade to be difficult to block with. All of them require a blade angle adjustment. This one really controls the table well. It's quick and controlled all at the same time. I have made great improvement in blocking since getting this blade in that I use a lot more of the table with blocks too. I don't think this is a result of blade change as much as the game is slowing down for me mentally and more things naturally occur to me in fast play now. What used to be a concerted effort is now instinctual.
Pushing: Very controlled, soft outer plies really make this a fairly strong point of the blade. I can really play this stroke a bit more aggressively and it seems to reward me for doing so. It allows me to dig in and spin the ball well even on fairly short pushes.
Chops: Can't do it. Don't ask.
Summary: This is a great blade that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend to anyone at any time. It's on the low side of OFF+ and high side of OFF. I would say it's slower than Primorac Carbon, and faster than Viscaria or Maze. I like that this blade has thick hinoki outer plies. This makes this blade a great match for Euro, Japanese, and Chinese rubbers. I know it sounds like I'm a homer for this blade. I didn't really point out what this blade does poorly, which makes me sound not objective. Since I have gotten this blade I've improved on basically every stroke, and all strokes have been easier since getting them. If there's a negative it's that if you are looking for a legitimate OFF+ blade this probably isn't it. Like I said it's on the low side of OFF+.
The Xiom Zetro Quad is a beautifully crafted blade. It's a very unique construction. Think of a Stradivarius, or TBS in which they changed out the Arylate Carbon with just carbon and shaved about a mm off of the core. After that slap a thin layer of Zylon on it and put another mm of Hinoki on the top. This comes out to a solid 7 mm thick blade. Typically I play a thinner blade, but I had read that this is a pretty snappy flexible blade, and that kept my eye on the blade till I finally broke down and got it.
Serves: This is the one area where I seem to do pretty well with any blade as long as it's not a ridiculously stiff blade. The Zetro Quad is not ridiculously stiff, so it was really pretty good on the serve side. It's very controlled. It is easy to apply quite a bit of spin, and surprisingly it's pretty easy to keep the ball nice and short.
Loops: Doesn't matter what kind of loop. The brush loop is nice and easy. I actually think the brush loop is more rubber type dependent than it is blade dependent. Loop drives are absolutely great with this blade. They are very crisp and have a lot of bite on them. It doesn't produce quite as much kick off the table as the Stradivarius, but it isn't devoid of it like a lot of carbon blades. Since getting the Zetro Quad I have really gotten a better understanding of using the entire table as it pertains to looping. Short angles, heavy driving angles have been very easy and controlled with this blade.
Counters: This is the stroke that I have been pretty poor at most of the time. I took some time playing with a very stiff blade to work on this stroke just go get a good idea of how it could help me in game play. Then switched back to the Stradivarius which was so flexible that this stroke was just very difficult to control. After having gotten the Zetro Quad I have found the best balance of being able to flat drive the ball, and loop all in the same blade. This has been a difficult search, but I'm very satisfied in retrospect. I have no intentions of switching from this blade anytime soon.
Blocks: I haven't found any blade to be difficult to block with. All of them require a blade angle adjustment. This one really controls the table well. It's quick and controlled all at the same time. I have made great improvement in blocking since getting this blade in that I use a lot more of the table with blocks too. I don't think this is a result of blade change as much as the game is slowing down for me mentally and more things naturally occur to me in fast play now. What used to be a concerted effort is now instinctual.
Pushing: Very controlled, soft outer plies really make this a fairly strong point of the blade. I can really play this stroke a bit more aggressively and it seems to reward me for doing so. It allows me to dig in and spin the ball well even on fairly short pushes.
Chops: Can't do it. Don't ask.
Summary: This is a great blade that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend to anyone at any time. It's on the low side of OFF+ and high side of OFF. I would say it's slower than Primorac Carbon, and faster than Viscaria or Maze. I like that this blade has thick hinoki outer plies. This makes this blade a great match for Euro, Japanese, and Chinese rubbers. I know it sounds like I'm a homer for this blade. I didn't really point out what this blade does poorly, which makes me sound not objective. Since I have gotten this blade I've improved on basically every stroke, and all strokes have been easier since getting them. If there's a negative it's that if you are looking for a legitimate OFF+ blade this probably isn't it. Like I said it's on the low side of OFF+.
I have had this blade paired with Vega Europe for a couple of weeks now.I find it hard to control.
Having played with vega Europe on a slower blade last year which i loved .
I am thinking of changing the rubbers for Hurricane.I think a harder sponge with more control.Are their any rubber reccomendations for the Quad that lend to a spin attack?
Having played with vega Europe on a slower blade last year which i loved .
I am thinking of changing the rubbers for Hurricane.I think a harder sponge with more control.Are their any rubber reccomendations for the Quad that lend to a spin attack?
This is a well manufactured blade, something you could expect at the price. Compared to other offensive blades that i tried i particularly notice a more direct feedback of the blade. With other blades the characteristics of the rubber tends to be the dominant part. I prefer the more direct blade feedback, the overall feeling of the bat has got more bite to it. I am using rubbers DHS H2 on both sides. My playing style is offensive near the table/allround. Looping is very nice with this blade, blade allows for good variation with feelable feedback. In my experience the blade is not extremely fast which is just right for me. It seems to deliver a bit extra speed when hitting harder, which may be caused by the carbon layers. (The all wood offensive blades I tried seemed to have a different characeteristic in that respect). Short game and bl!
ocking also very good in my opinion, pushing over the table very good, too. I like the blade especially for it's solid feel and direct feedback and good topspin qualities.
ocking also very good in my opinion, pushing over the table very good, too. I like the blade especially for it's solid feel and direct feedback and good topspin qualities.
Excellent workmanship - the blade is manufactured to highest quality standards. Fairly light.
I've got Xiom Omega IV Pro 2.0mm on each side. Very good control in the short game. Brush looping is a breeze, powerloops are amazing. Lots of dwell time. Blocking and smashing is okay.
There is no way this is a Off+ blade - it is on par with a Timo Boll ALC, and slower than Killerspin Diamond TX (and obviously TC). Which in itself is a very good thing!
I've got Xiom Omega IV Pro 2.0mm on each side. Very good control in the short game. Brush looping is a breeze, powerloops are amazing. Lots of dwell time. Blocking and smashing is okay.
There is no way this is a Off+ blade - it is on par with a Timo Boll ALC, and slower than Killerspin Diamond TX (and obviously TC). Which in itself is a very good thing!
Found this blade to be the most consistent blade I've ever hit with. Pairs great with both Euro and Chinese rubbers. I pair with H3 blue sponge and hexer + on bh. It is a loopers dream, and good for smashing as well. The soft hinoki paired with the zylon gives it great touch in short game, but also great dwell on distance play. This blade is not as fast as other blades I have played. Slower than SC by far. Slower than MJ and a little slower than iolite neo. I would say probably just a touch faster than the Acoustic.
This is a spin machine blade.
Serve:
Very good for serve with high spin rubber (Tenergy 05 & Xiom Pro)and still better with medium spin rubber with more precision. I prefer 729-02.
Push:
Best work with low arch rubber but still good with tenergy 05. I prefer 729-02.
Flip:
Better with medium speed-spin rubber. Is still good with Xiom Pro but a little bit difficult with T05. I prefer 729-02.
Direct hits.
It work best with long trajectory rubber e.g medium to low trajectory rubber.
Loop:
Most easy to loop i have use, it will lack of control with Tenergy05. Sometime i loss the table.
Spin:
Very high spin produce even with medium spin rubber such sriver G2. I prefer andro hexer.
Block:
Very good but sometime the ball off the table to block high spin ball from T05 with TO5. I prefer andro hexer and 729-02.
Overall:
It is good blade not with high spin rubber because the ball will rotate so much (Loss speed / Loss controll / difficult to control spin ball).
Tacky rubber is the bad choice to work with the rubber.
The blade that you can figure to produce high performance games without high performance rubber such Tenergy 05 or Xiom Pro.
Serve:
Very good for serve with high spin rubber (Tenergy 05 & Xiom Pro)and still better with medium spin rubber with more precision. I prefer 729-02.
Push:
Best work with low arch rubber but still good with tenergy 05. I prefer 729-02.
Flip:
Better with medium speed-spin rubber. Is still good with Xiom Pro but a little bit difficult with T05. I prefer 729-02.
Direct hits.
It work best with long trajectory rubber e.g medium to low trajectory rubber.
Loop:
Most easy to loop i have use, it will lack of control with Tenergy05. Sometime i loss the table.
Spin:
Very high spin produce even with medium spin rubber such sriver G2. I prefer andro hexer.
Block:
Very good but sometime the ball off the table to block high spin ball from T05 with TO5. I prefer andro hexer and 729-02.
Overall:
It is good blade not with high spin rubber because the ball will rotate so much (Loss speed / Loss controll / difficult to control spin ball).
Tacky rubber is the bad choice to work with the rubber.
The blade that you can figure to produce high performance games without high performance rubber such Tenergy 05 or Xiom Pro.
this blade is really good. used it for at least 2 years. really good feeling of the blade and a very light weight.
the blade lack a little bit of speed but a really good control.. its also bouncy if you grip it hard.
i little vibration provide a good feeling and a good understanding of the stoke
a good size sweet spot. recommend to loops, topspin, flicks, and player who are improving style at intermediate level
the blade lack a little bit of speed but a really good control.. its also bouncy if you grip it hard.
i little vibration provide a good feeling and a good understanding of the stoke
a good size sweet spot. recommend to loops, topspin, flicks, and player who are improving style at intermediate level
Just one thing: attack without any compromises. Don't mind if someone says that is the loopers only blade, it excels in any offensive stroke. You can even chop with it ( of course 2 or more meters away from the table). Control in any stroke- this is the strength of this blade.
I used this rubber for only 4hrs and I already have a lot of impressions. First it is very fast absolutely for non-beginners only! it can produce a lot of spin this maybe because of the Hinoki and Zylon mix packed with a Kiri center ply very good for loops but it is bit heavy but the bright side of it's weight is that's speed to your shots especially if you have a loose grip
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